tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post7436679161748708088..comments2023-09-01T09:38:54.262-04:00Comments on Dumb Looks Still Free: Odinga, Obama and the lack of courageA Jacksonianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-79892410320882789262008-06-18T11:49:00.000-04:002008-06-18T11:49:00.000-04:00My thanks!There are, indeed, many sides to every s...My thanks!<BR/><BR/>There are, indeed, many sides to every story... and I have followed what I can to see what that other side has to offer, which leads back to de-colonialization, the USSR and various other fun things going on in Kenya. It goes beyond two sides, it turns out, more like a kibbitzers game with multiple players doing things at cross-purposes for their own reasons coming to a pretty complex outcome.<BR/><BR/>I wish there were *just* two sides.<BR/><BR/>It would make things so much easier...A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-453387859482942382008-06-18T11:45:00.000-04:002008-06-18T11:45:00.000-04:00Youve done your homework, but remember there is al...Youve done your homework, but remember there is always 2 sides to a story.<BR/><BR/>cheers.<BR/>Chrissy<BR/>=============================<BR/><A HREF="http://www.EZWSInet.com" REL="nofollow">Dubai Search Engine Optimization</A>bestonline323https://www.blogger.com/profile/17354955023206930885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-29055139704668396032008-04-21T05:56:00.000-04:002008-04-21T05:56:00.000-04:00Almijisti - Yes the authenticity was called into q...Almijisti - Yes the authenticity was called into question. I believe that the election was also settled with a great deal of violence involved and it required something known as a 'power sharing arrangement', which makes absolute and unilateral action difficult, at best. Sharia law has not been imposed as of this writing, but the outreach of the Luo to the Islamic representatives in other tribes, particularly in the north and border with Somalia is established via election results. Just what the actual status between Raila Odinga and those tribes is not exactly clear. Also it was those tribes that provided safe-haven and recruiting base for the Islamic Courts Union of Somalia due to ethnic affiliation.<BR/><BR/>I would say that the instantiation of violence, some of it pre-meditated and incited by Raila's supporters calls into question the character and nature of a man who would not work against such a thing. Establishing precedent that elections are settled by bloodshed is the opposite of civil proceedings: it is coercion via violence. The final verdict of what happens is not written immediately, and it will be very interesting to see what actually happens from here on out.A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-21271495028718564842008-04-20T23:27:00.000-04:002008-04-20T23:27:00.000-04:00Very interesting. I see that the authenticity of ...Very interesting. I see that the authenticity of the MOU was called into question, but now that Odinga is PM, I've found no confirmation one way or another. I understand that Odinga said it was a fake, but what's the final verdict? Did they impose shariah law in Kenya or not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-59555979519198937262008-04-13T05:48:00.000-04:002008-04-13T05:48:00.000-04:00Wild Thing - My pleasure!In case you want more bac...Wild Thing - My pleasure!<BR/><BR/>In case you want more backgrounding and analysis the next few in the Odinga articles are - <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2008/01/other-source-of-change-in-kenyan.html" REL="nofollow">The Other Source of Change in Kenyan Politics</A><BR/><A HREF="http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2008/01/balkanization-of-kenya.html" REL="nofollow">The Balkanization of Kenya</A><BR/><BR/>On the Obama side - <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2008/03/connecting-some-dots-between-candidates.html" REL="nofollow">Connecting the dots between the candidates</A><BR/><A HREF="http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2008/02/foreign-policy-team-follies.html" REL="nofollow">Foreign Policy team follies</A><BR/><A HREF="http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2008/03/sen-obama-missing-mark.html" REL="nofollow">Sen. Obama missing the mark</A>A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-75001347047325264222008-04-12T23:34:00.000-04:002008-04-12T23:34:00.000-04:00Thank you so much for this tremendous work you put...Thank you so much for this tremendous work you put into this, I was looking for this information and your post about all of this is no less then awesome. Thank you so much!!Wild Thinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18414166417873626821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-54956812966652472502008-01-25T09:22:00.000-05:002008-01-25T09:22:00.000-05:00Anne - This opens up a different perspective on th...Anne - This opens up a different perspective on things... I had thought that Soviet influence was limited to the offering of overseas education in E. Germany and Russia (in particular), not in a localized indoctrination school such as this. With this the Ogaden War experience becomes something to ponder... if this was an attempt to seed longer term support via politics, then it has outlasted the USSR and yet its teachings have not gone down with it. The highly state-centric view of the post-colonial period was bad enough without the more destabilizing state-centered and society revolving around it view of the USSR thrown into the mix.<BR/><BR/>This also opens up questions on the political contacts made through the period of the school under such administration and the powerbase of those individuals along with their sources of support.<BR/><BR/>I thank you, and deeply... I have been dealing with the more global problem of terrorism and the slow descent of US politics into a choatic decay state. These are becoming highly interconnected problems, at this point in time, and I do not like that.<BR/><BR/>Not at all.A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-34559988758604157932008-01-25T08:06:00.000-05:002008-01-25T08:06:00.000-05:00Just adding more on Kenyan history. Raila Odinga s...Just adding more on Kenyan history. Raila Odinga seem to have learnt well from his father how to distabilize Kenya. The father Oginga Odinga, made Vice President by President Kenyatta tried to overthrow him with the help of communists just one year after Kenya won independence in 1963. Here is a paste and link:<BR/><BR/>http://www.eastandard.net/archives/july/sun11072004/reports/rep10070402.htm<BR/><BR/>SECRET CABINET PAPERS<BR/>How Kenya’s best kept secret became a hotbed of insurgents<BR/>By John Kamau <BR/><BR/>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR/> <BR/>Dateline: Saturday, December 12, 1964. At around 3 pm, just as Kenya turned into a republic, the newly sworn-in President Jomo Kenyatta’s convoy drove from State House, Nairobi to the flag-decked Thika Road to officially open what he described as "Kenya’s best kept secret" and Jamhuri Day’s "big surprise" – the so-called Lumumba Institute.<BR/>He didn’t know it was a communist school of politics designed to topple him. <BR/><BR/>Forty years later, questions are still asked about how the new Vice President, Jaramogi Oginga Odinga, managed to trick Kenyatta to approve a plot to topple him. It was a move that not only left top schemer Tom Mboya dazed but also confused Kenyatta’s inner circle — composed of Mr Mbiyu Koinange, Mr James Gichuru, and Dr Njoroge Mungai.<BR/><BR/>And when they realised what had happened they threw senior Chinese and Russian "spies" stationed at the institute out of the country. Others simply disappeared.<BR/><BR/>"It was simply a scheme to remove Kenyatta via the party but I think Oginga Odinga was too fast and politically impatient," Nairobi politician Wanguhu Nganga, who was the institute’s deputy principal, told the Sunday Standard this week.<BR/> <BR/>The premises as it looks today and after major renovations. <BR/> <BR/>Jomo Kenyatta who opened the Lumumba Institute off Thika Road with Bildad Kaggia (left), Mama Ngina Kenyatta and Jaramogi Odinga. <BR/> <BR/><BR/>So embarrassing is this episode of Kenya’s history that it is hardly talked about. The Lumumba Institute, now known as Pan African Christian College, a bible school off Thika Road, is long forgotten, hiding its Cold War past in the 20-acre land that had been purchased by Odinga for purposes of the plot.<BR/><BR/>"When it was bought for evangelical work, the entire place was neglected", says Wilfred Hildebrandt, the principal of the christian college.<BR/><BR/>To the Kenyatta government Lumumba Institute was a dream come true for the ruling party Kanu, which, it was thought, would now have a base to train its members, activists and youth wingers.<BR/><BR/>The building of the institute was a state secret — at least as Kenyatta and his inner circle knew. But one man, the newly appointed Vice President Odinga, knew another meta-secret about the institute.<BR/><BR/>Although, Kenyatta was the only other trustee of the institute besides Odinga, the President didn’t know that Lumumba Institute was part of a communist plot to train radicals who would later stage a coup within the ruling party, Kanu, to replace the West-leaning politicians with a new cabal led by Odinga.<BR/><BR/>And on July 16, 1965, some 16 days after the first batch of 84 students graduated from the institute, they staged a "coup" at the Kanu headquarters, then at Nairobi’s Mfang’ano Street, and ostensibly "removed" the entire Kanu leadership apart from Kenyatta and Odinga.<BR/><BR/>We can now reveal that behind the scenes, other than Odinga, was a key Chinese undercover agent, Mr Wang Te Ming, who travelled on a diplomatic passport and masqueraded as a journalist. Ming was once a Chinese volunteer soldier during the Korean War and had risen to the rank of a major.<BR/><BR/>Another plotter was a South African communist, Mr Hosea Jaffe, a Cape Town University-trained engineer who was teaching mathematics at the Duke of Gloucester School, now Nairobi School. He was kicked out of Kenya on the orders of Dr Njoroge Mungai just after the coup at Kanu headquarters.<BR/><BR/>Kenyatta, we now know, had been told that the institute would be used to "elaborate the spirit of harambee" or as Bildad Kaggia, the institute’s first chairman had put it: "The task of national reconstruction required an institution dedicated to the inculcation of the spirit of harambee in relation to all aspects of social, economic and political effort."<BR/><BR/>Odinga had also convinced President Kenyatta that the objects of the Lumumba Trust, which was to manage the institute, was to "establish and maintain a college, university or school" and to "grant scholarships and bursaries".<BR/><BR/>Named after Patrice Lumumba, the slain Congolese leader, the institute was to "provide courses and arrange seminars and discussions for Kanu workers and officials", and that was the catch, both ways.<BR/><BR/>Just outside the gate, a bronze statue of Lumumba had been erected and a plaque that read: "This institute is dedicated to Lumumba, the patriot who died at the hands of Imperialists and their agents for his firm championship of genuine African political and economic independence and socialism in Africa".<BR/><BR/>The key words here were "socialism", "imperialists", and "their agents". As Kenyatta cut the tape to formally open the institute, Lumumba’s brother stood by and somehow, may be as a result of political naivety, Kenyatta missed the fine print. He also hardly noticed the many under-cover agents who were to work with Odinga on the Lumumba project.<BR/><BR/>Unknown to many, the 20-acre land on which the institute stood had been bought by Odinga and the buildings erected in a record five months at a cost of 27,000 pounds (current rates Sh3.5 million) with funding from communist countries. Initially there were two old buildings on the farm. One building was occupied by the principal, New Delhi-trained political scientist Mathew Mutiso, the father of Kilome MP John Mutinda Mutiso, who was born at the institute.<BR/><BR/>The second was occupied by Wanguhu Ng’ang’a, the deputy principal, while the registrar, F. Oluande occupied a new maisonette. There was also the Kenyatta Conference Hall and a kitchen that had been built with funds from East Germany.<BR/><BR/>"Everything in that kitchen came from East Germany," recalls Ng’ang’a.<BR/><BR/>Initially the institute was to admit 108 students — mainly Kanu leaders at the district level or their appointees, but all that was left to Odinga. As Kenyatta and his advisers were to later realise, that was a major blunder.<BR/><BR/>Kenyatta had left Odinga to coordinate the building and running of the institute, a brainchild of the VP’s. Odinga handpicked the socialist-leaning Kaggia as the chairman of the board of management.<BR/><BR/>"Although we were all leftists, and had leftist ideologies, we were independent of Odinga and were not under the thumb of anybody," says Ng’ang’a, who trained in Czechoslovakia as a journalist.<BR/><BR/>Other members of the board included another communist, Mr Pio Gama Pinto, Mr Ochieng Aneko, Mr S. Othigo Othieno, Mr Kungu Karumba, Mr Fred Kubai, Mr F Oluande, Mr Paul Ngei, and Mr Joseph Murumbi – a well groomed set of communists and their sympathisers.<BR/><BR/>Pio Gama Pinto, an avowed communist, had spent much of his time fundraising for the institute and wanted it to succeed. <BR/><BR/>The curriculum had been selected methodically — general principles of socialism, history of political organisation, African road to socialism, Kiswahili, Accounts and, oh well, the biography of Jomo Kenyatta.<BR/><BR/>Donations to the institute had started to flow in from Eastern Europe. On March 4, 1965, Odinga received books, blankets and two cinema vans from Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, East Germany and China.<BR/><BR/>Two weeks later, the first batch of 114 students — mainly district Kanu officials consisting of chairmen, secretaries and treasurers — joined. Odinga had brought in two Russian "lecturers", Mr Alexei Zdravomyslova and Mr Andrei Bogdanov to teach "principles of socialism".<BR/><BR/>"They were very social, very human," says Ng’ang’a, but couldn’t tell whether they were into any mischief. Other teachers besides Mutiso, and Nganga, included Mr J. Thuo, Mr S. Nzioki, Mr J Wanyonyi, and (Prof) Munoru.<BR/><BR/>Odinga’s project had started in earnest with Russians and Chinese working behind the scenes to help him ascend power through a party takeover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-20612160154844689372008-01-23T06:56:00.000-05:002008-01-23T06:56:00.000-05:00Mexxie - I thank you.If I could apologize for what...Mexxie - I thank you.<BR/><BR/>If I could apologize for what Dick Morris and others are helping to perpetrate on Kenya, I would... What Morris is doing is *not* the ideal of America, but his own ideals and vendetta extending to there. Like Bill Clinton he has found a perfect vessel to steer where he wants things to go via Raila Odinga.... Odinga was already bad enough, but now I fear for Kenya's future.<BR/><BR/>If the people of Kenya can unite outside of the venal politics inflicted upon them and hold those politics accountable, the start of reconciliation will be seen that needed to start decades ago. The end of what is going on now has been seen in other places around the globe... in the Balkans and Pakistan to name two... and it is where they are at *now* that gives me extreme pause for Kenya today. I can only try to understand and put it into perspective for myself, and I find myself at a loss for words seeing this unfold.<BR/><BR/>Only the people of Kenya can hold their politicians accountable. For that is the true power of Kenya... not in politics or industry or any other material thing: it is the people that matter.<BR/><BR/>Justice cannot be handed to Kenya.<BR/><BR/>But it can be created by the people of Kenya.A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-4787335109300991062008-01-23T03:40:00.000-05:002008-01-23T03:40:00.000-05:00Hi, you have really done your homework, i have lea...Hi, you have really done your homework, i have learnt alot about this tyrant who is killing our beloved country which we have worked hard to build.Mexxiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18256095016551172002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-64164981744375398362008-01-14T08:57:00.000-05:002008-01-14T08:57:00.000-05:00Evesdropper - My thanks!You are quite correct in t...Evesdropper - My thanks!<BR/><BR/>You are quite correct in the 'two sides to every story' concept only to a point: there are multiple facets to all stories and trying to know exactly which vector to approach a given story or happening on is difficult.<BR/><BR/>There are multiple factors to consider in Kenya beyond just politics and tribal affairs: political corruption due to the unaccountable money flow is a prime mover in Kenya and causing the cost of what should be, in reality, low cost elections, to skyrocket. As that system is unaccountable the individuals that can solicit the most funds gets a 'leg up' - that is not the same as guaranteeing victory, however. Raila Odinga looks to have multiple external backers in his quest for power, ranging from Saudi oil money to European crime money to wealthy individuals around the globe backing his candidacy. I do assume that each candidate and party does this in Kenya, but Odinga is pressing a line forward that is quite pointed: gathering more power to government, removing local autonomy, and ensuring that whatever faction he backs can be put in place for a much longer term than a single election cycle.<BR/><BR/>Having someone like that as a close friend, which is the case at this point in time as stated by Odinga and seen by Obama's calls to him on the campaign trail, is troubling. Putting an individual forward for POTUS that is one step away from close ties with al Qaeda and, possibly, the Mogilevich crew or Northern Italian mafia is very troubling. Additionally there is the SCOTUS decision pointing out that the ability of individuals from the US, particularly in the Legislative Branch, to conduct any form of diplomacy is nil outside of the Executive purview. This Barack Obama has sought, but in an ex-post facto way: his ties and connections politically date far before this current run for office possibly pre-dating 2004.<BR/><BR/>I have documented multiple times and in extremis multiple politicians on both sides of the political fence in the US as being: corrupt, dirty, in the pay of various factions including organized crime, as conduits for foreign money, associated with foreign governments, and so on. There is a large difference between supporting an individual looking to take an authoritarian role in a foreign Nation and receiving, as an example, kickbacks from local organized crime on pork barrel political earmarks in the federal budget when one is running for President.<BR/><BR/>If you think my problems with Barack are large, you have not read my pieces on Hillary Clinton or John McCain. I am quite bi-partisan in this, and tell it as I see it... I am not looking for a 'perfect politician', but one who can stand up for the Nation, protect her from all enemies foreign and domestic, and ensure that the needs of the US go before that of any other Nation while being President.<BR/><BR/>I am running out of individuals that I can confidently say can even begin to do those things.<BR/><BR/>Which tells much about the condition of US politics as I see it. I don't mind dirt, so long as the politician can fess up to it and explain themselves. It is the evasion of such accountability to me, as a voter, that I detest. And at the highest level I will not vote for anyone becoming beholden to forces outside the US... which are reasons I will not be voting for Obama or Clinton. If you think this is nasty about Obama, you haven't read what I have said about HRC.<BR/><BR/>First is accountability for past actions, which is removing almost all of the election field to start with.<BR/><BR/>Then there is actually having a clue as to what the job is and some ability to do it. And that removes the rest.<BR/><BR/>I do, indeed, look at all sides of the story... and its coming up nasty every which way I look at it. I forsee trouble ahead, and I like it not. Barack Obama is a symptom, not the disease itself.A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-51471915881729575122008-01-14T01:18:00.000-05:002008-01-14T01:18:00.000-05:00a Jacksonian,You seem bent on unearthing dirt on O...a Jacksonian,<BR/><BR/>You seem bent on unearthing dirt on Obama and go to the extent of quoting the dailies in Kenya. That to me is kind of a desperate attempt. There is always 2 sides to a story, even the article you have listed have their better halves. The point is Obama might have had a Kenyan father, but Obama is in no way Kenyan and his link with Raila is only that they share a tribe (as far as his father is concerned). Odinga might have slime on him but which leader doesn't???? Show me one and I will marvel.Evesdropperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403967539613815059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-73771751002278466542008-01-11T17:43:00.000-05:002008-01-11T17:43:00.000-05:00Simon - I ran out of folks to vote for in this ele...Simon - I ran out of folks to vote for in this election. I will vote ABC if HRC is on the ballot... otherwise... well the default candidate is on the sidebar.<BR/><BR/>If we are going to Hell, we need experienced leadership.A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-3207534696294180742008-01-11T17:40:00.000-05:002008-01-11T17:40:00.000-05:00The real pisser is that with the possible exceptio...The real pisser is that with the possible exception of Fred they are all totalitarians. <BR/><BR/>And I include Ron Paul in the totalitarian column.M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-70712153951079530292008-01-11T17:35:00.000-05:002008-01-11T17:35:00.000-05:00Snooper - My thanks!The more I look at this guy th...Snooper - My thanks!<BR/><BR/>The more I look at this guy the more I get a whiff of totalitarianism about ready to take root.A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-78371853122444268002008-01-11T16:17:00.000-05:002008-01-11T16:17:00.000-05:00Good job getting the goods on this guy!!Good job getting the goods on this guy!!Mark Harvey aka Snooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00912629022439255684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-86518084122376117742008-01-10T02:01:00.000-05:002008-01-10T02:01:00.000-05:00WB-7 First PlasmaThe world has just changed. Cheap...<A HREF="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2008/01/wb-7-first-plasma.html" REL="nofollow">WB-7 First Plasma</A><BR/><BR/>The world has just changed. Cheap fusion is on the way. About 5 years.M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-34965901147094050592008-01-08T17:58:00.000-05:002008-01-08T17:58:00.000-05:00Simon - Indeed, that does seem the case. That roa...Simon - Indeed, that does seem the case. That road has been paved starting in 2003 with the death of the VP of Kenya and the walking out of Odinga and friends to form their Pentagon group of the ODM.<BR/><BR/>Going to take awhile to get things going here, today is shot for me...A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-44739576634656205142008-01-08T17:55:00.000-05:002008-01-08T17:55:00.000-05:00A. J.,I link you here, where I'm collecting dirt o...A. J.,<BR/><BR/>I link you <A HREF="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2008/01/obamarama.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>, where I'm collecting dirt on Obama.<BR/><BR/>It seems like he is supporting a coup attempt by Islam in Keyna.M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-74259129906956774612008-01-08T17:40:00.000-05:002008-01-08T17:40:00.000-05:00Simon - The more I read about him the less I like ...Simon - The more I read about him the less I like him... interesting that the MSM is giving him a 'free pass' because their own dependancy upon divisive politics and 'group identity' do not permit them to criticize someone from an 'oppressed' group.<BR/><BR/>Luckily I do, indeed, believe in MLK and judging a man by the content of his character, not the color of his skin.<BR/><BR/>Works rather well, actually.<BR/><BR/>America could use some of that.A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-26783629959600122222008-01-08T14:40:00.000-05:002008-01-08T14:40:00.000-05:00Gateway Pundit has some interesting stuff in the c...<A HREF="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/01/new-hampshire-votes-2008-primary.html" REL="nofollow">Gateway Pundit</A> has some interesting stuff in the comments.M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-2882266139114949162008-01-08T14:35:00.000-05:002008-01-08T14:35:00.000-05:00Here is a bit on Obama's Church:The Honorable Mini...Here is a bit on Obama's Church:<BR/><BR/>The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan received the "Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright,Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer" Award at the 2007 Trumpet Gala at the the United Church of Christ.<BR/><BR/>More at:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2008/01/trinity-united-church-of-christ.html" REL="nofollow">Trinity United Church of Christ</A><BR/><BR/>Do Americans really want a black racist as President? One with Muslim sympathies to boot?M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-52961358020131602942008-01-08T04:50:00.000-05:002008-01-08T04:50:00.000-05:00Mobyanny - My thanks and thank you for the informa...Mobyanny - My thanks and thank you for the information! <BR/><BR/>I can see that I have some more digging to do... my aim was to understand enough Kenyan politics so as to give it some perspective, but connections to arab Nations need to be further looked at as personalities drive politics. This is valuable information!<BR/><BR/>All Africa (allafrica.com) has about an 18 month lag on the waybackmachine, and that may be due to the registration system they put in place more than anything else.<BR/><BR/>Again thank you for the information!A Jacksonianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07607888697879327120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20372724.post-60036676877294811482008-01-08T02:20:00.000-05:002008-01-08T02:20:00.000-05:00Well done Jacksonian. I Want to add the Najib Bala...Well done Jacksonian. I Want to add the Najib Balala (ODM Pentagon member), Raila Odinga and Arab connections. Here it is:<BR/><BR/>Another Raila Odinga Arab connection is his close ODM (Kenyan Opposition party)member Najib Balala and the violence in Mombasa:<BR/> <BR/>Najib Balala and the Arab money:<BR/> <BR/>The Mvita MP made substantial personal money between 2003 and 2005 when he served as Minister for Sports and culture. During this period, informed sources say, Balala had some lucrative business dealings with prominent players in the oil rich Arab countries of Qatar, Oman and Yemen where he is reputed to have made close to US$ 2 million (about Kshs 140 Million).<BR/> <BR/>Balala is a member of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) the Kenyan opposition, headed by Raila Odinga. He hails from Mombasa, a town on the Kenyan Coastline where there have been violence. He is a Yemeni descendant. Balala speaks Arabic, Swahili and English.<BR/> <BR/>During the time he was the Minister of Sports, a number of Kenyan runners defected to Arab countries. It is believed that he was behind it. <BR/> <BR/>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6242323.stm<BR/> <BR/>Tues 13 Jan 2004 Qatar Offers to Build Sports Centre in Kenya <BR/>All Africa (http://allafrica.com) The government of Qatar will build an athletics stadium in Eldoret, it was announced yesterday. |<BR/> <BR/>The article above appeared on allafrica.com, but is no longer available. Eldoret is another town that has been hit by violence, the burning of 50 women and children in the church.<BR/> <BR/>http://archive.wn.com/2004/01/14/1400/mideastsport/ <BR/> <BR/>Picture 1 (Najib Balala demonstrating in Mombasa)<BR/> http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,2990,00.html#1_0<BR/> <BR/>This article appeared on Wall Street Journal after 2002 Mombasa terror attack. After the attack, the Government of Kenya shut down a number of Islamic NGOs (Non Profits) that were actually Islamic recruiting centers who were establishing Radical Islamic Schools especially in Mombasa. <BR/> <BR/>http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2002/2002-December/027964.html<BR/> <BR/>Another picture of Najib Balala <BR/> http://hownowz.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/najib_khanzu.jpg <BR/> <BR/>Raila Odinga recently appeared on <BR/>AlJazeera . The station openly support him. <BR/><BR/>Do you know that, his Diaspora Luo supporters were the ones sending the news to US TV networks immediately after the violence in Kenya started. Their aim was to publicize the violence to gain sympathy. Rigging was happening in both ODM and PNU strongholds During the elections before the results came out, a PNU poll administrator in Luo Nyanza was killed by ODM supporters. six people were arrested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com